Question:
How Do I Determine The Time Signatures of Songs?
Emma
2007-10-01 04:39:51 UTC
Please help me because I'd really like to know how, please say it in plain English. Also it would be great if you could give me examples of popular songs with certain time signatures and explain why.

Also, anything that I'd need to know about time signatures

Thanks,
Jason
Eight answers:
Anya
2007-10-01 05:17:56 UTC
ok let me try....saying it in 'plain English' without any use of musical terms is really hard, if not impossible. you need to at least know something about musical terms to understand what i'm saying.



The time signatures of every song is written right at the beginning of the score. It's beside the musical clefs (e.g. treble clef, bass clef, alto clef, tenor clef, etc.), where you see two numbers written one on top of the other. Sometimes it comes after the key signature - those '#'s and 'b's (the actual symbol resembles 'b', cos it isn't possible to type it out on the computer) that you see. It's hard to explain without a score. Take any music score and look at it. There will be time signatures like 6/8 (the '/' is used to replace the top-bottom alignment over here on the computer), 3/4, 4/4, (there are many more) and sometimes you'll see stuff like just a 'C' with/without the slash down its middle. the C alone stands for 'common time', which is equivalent to 4/4, and the C with a stroke down its middle is 'cut common time', equivalent to 2/2.



now on to what each time signature means. the top number stands for the number of beats in each bar/measure (those vertical lines that you see dividing the score into 'parts'). So a '2' stands for 2 counts, 3 = 3 counts and so on.



the bottom number tells you what note value is each count. a 4 stands for crotchet beats, a 2 stands for minum beats, an 8 = quaver beats, a 16 = semiquaver beats. so if the time signature is 6/8, it means '6 quaver beats in each bar' (though we commonly make it into '2 dotted crotchet beats in each bar' because it gives us the swinging feeling we need for pieces with this time signature). a time signature of 2/4 will mean '2 crotchet beats in each bar'. 4/2 means '4 minum beats in each bar'. and so on.



take note that you can't replace eg. a 4/2 with 8/4 or 2/1 (2/1 doesn't even exist). time signatures are not mathematical fractions, changing it would give the piece a totally different feel, even if the number of counts in each bar stays the same. same goes for 2/4. you can't replace it with 1/2 although both will give you 2 crotchet counts in each bar (a minum is twice the value of a crotchet).



it's hard to determine time signatures without any music scores, unless you've really good ears and can pick up on the number of counts + note values in each bar by just listening. a trained musician will be able to do some of this, because we're used to associating certain characters or 'feels' with certain time signatures. a waltz for example, is mostly in 3/4. a cradle song usually comes with 6/8 (the swinging feeling). a march is usually in 2 (2/4 or 2/2).



sometimes, the composer of the song may decide to change time signature in the middle of a piece. to know the new time signature, you just need to look for other appearances of the top-bottom numerical figures in the piece (the time signature) to get it. time signature changes usually come with a change of character in the piece, a new section, or some composers like debussy and other contemporary composers may just use it to purposely 'blur' the pulse of the song. frequent changes of time signatures result in a more fluid feel to the whole piece, and you feel as if the piece is just flowing on and on very smoothly, without eg. the clear cut 1-2-3 1-2-3 with the first beat emphasised every time.



i hope i made some sense in all that...if you need more explanation you can always email me and i'll try and send you a scan of the first page of any music score to mark out all that i've said.
langdonrjones
2007-10-01 04:58:21 UTC
Just count in time to the beats. If, for example, you sing Happy Birthday, you will find that you naturally count 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3. Happy Birthday is in 3/4 time. You will also find that when you start, the '1' will naturally fall on 'Birth' - the bits before that are the 'lead-in'.



So is 'Oh Say Can you See ... ' (sorry - a Brit, I don't know the title of this one. :)



Good King Wenceslas is different. You will find this time you count naturally up to four.



The time signature comes about because of the way musical tunes are organised rhythmically - there is a natural pulse, with one beat ('1') having more emphasis than another. This emphasis can come from every one beat to every sixteen beats or more, although complex time signatures are rarer.



As an example of a complex time signature, try counting to 'America' from West Side Story. This time you will find you are rapidly counting '1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2'.



In a musical time signature the top number represents the number of beats in the bar - a bar being a single unit of the repetitive rhythmic pattern. In Happy Birthday a bar is three beats long; in Wenceslas it is four, and in America it is 12.



The bottom number of the time signature represents the basic 'unit' that you are counting in. In three-four time you are counting in crotchets (quarter notes) - the same in four-four time. The bottom '4' represents a crochet (quarter note) beat. In 'America', because the music is rapid, the basic unit would be the quaver (eighth note), and the time signature is therefore 12-8.



Sorry if this is confusing. It's a complicated subject, and I have tried to give an outline. If you need to know it in any more depth, try to do a Google search - there are bound to be plenty of pages on the subject.
john
2015-03-19 22:45:14 UTC
There is no short answer to this. Some of what each person above me said is right, but all of them have technical issues with what they said. These really are not "time signatures" as they are often called, but meter signatures, that is, they show the meter of the music (how the rhythm is organized). If you are only counting the number of eighth notes per measure six-eight seems just like three-four. It is all about how the beats are organized (both the stressed/unstressed pattern of the beats AND the the number of divisions in a beat at the same time. See musictheory.net. Read the Wikipedia article on Meter (music). If that does not explain it well enough, and you *really* want to know, hire a music teacher with at least a Bachelor of Music degree. (If you do not want to know about it that much, no answer here will be able to explain it.)

If you want to know more, email me, I can find someone in your area that can get you the information.
anonymous
2016-11-16 16:54:43 UTC
How To Count Time Signatures
midnight.wildfire
2007-10-01 05:10:48 UTC
Tap your foot to the beat

try and find where the "heavy" part of the beat falls (this varies for each time signature - eg 4/4 will usually be beats 1 and 3, 2/4 will be beat 1 and so on.



Good Thing - Reel Big Fish - a pretty easy song to try and get the time signature for -

3/4 - no. it's not pulsing quite right

2/4 - maybe. but doesn't seem quite right

6/8 - no. it doesn't have the 1(1,2,3), 2 (1,2,3)

4/4 - yes. pulsing right, easy to count in time to
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2016-04-11 01:45:15 UTC
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well, the top number on a time signature determines how many beats each mesure will have. for istance, if its a Three Four Time signatue, it would be three beats per mesure.
anonymous
2007-10-01 05:05:45 UTC
4/4 is the most common time signature for rock and pop songs, and infact most music. It's where you can count 1,2,3,4 over and over again to the music.



6/8 is sometimes called "slow rock", but is also used a lot in jazz and swing. You can count 1,2,3,4,5,6 over and over again to the beat. Most stuff that Charles Mingus did was in 6/8, but a rock example would be "Running Free" by Iron Maiden. Also check "Please release me" by Englebert Humperdinck.



3/4 is the classic "Waltz" time signature, and a pop example I can think of is "trouble" by Ray Lamontagne. Count 1,2,3 to the beat.



12/8 is a march time, and i can't think of any famous tunes.



2/2 is the Polka beat, and you can count 1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2 etc



5/4 is rarer, but famous examples are "living in the past" by jethro tull and "take five" by dave brubeck.



7/4 is another unusual one, but check out "Esther's nose job" by soft machine or "unsquare dance" again by Dave Brubeck.



For a good exploration of time signatures, buy a copy of "Time Out" by the Dave Brubeck quartet. he deliberately explorers unusual time signatures, and the sleeve notes give great intructions on following them.
anonymous
2015-05-02 03:52:29 UTC
Hope this helps!


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