Question:
Help me choose an electric guitar and an Amp?
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2011-04-21 06:33:22 UTC
Hi guys, I've been playing acoustic guitar for the past one year and intend to buy an electric one, which I'd like to begin with.... After doing a thorough research on the internet, i narrowed down to these choices:

1) Ibanez GRG 170 DX
2) Ibanez GRG 150
3) Gregg Bennet Avion AV1
4) BC Rich Warlock Platinum
6) Fender Squier Bullet Stratocaster

i would like a versatile guitar which can play all sorts of music ranging from Pop rock, Punk Rock to Death Metal, or atleast suit good to these genres with the combination of amps/processors.... My budget is within 15k... Any other GOOD guitars within the range are welcome for consideration

AMPLiFIERS

I know nothing about them, their features and so on.... My budget is within 8k... The amp needs to have basic effects like vibrato, reverb and mild distortion....... Though i'm considering the following, i need more suggestions from you guys
1) Roland Cube 20X
2) Stranger Cube 40
3) Stranger Cube 80

Please don't suggest anything below 20W

PROCESSORS
this again i have no knowledge of... Suggest me so real good processors/effect pedals worth spending Rs.5000..... Needs to have WAH WAH and distortion....

GUITAR STORE IN KOLKATA???
I live in Calcutta and hence need some suggestions for good guitar/music stores which have a wide range of guitars , amps and so on from variety of brands so i can find the best of the best things at my budget
Wating for your reply,
Regards,
Tirtha
Nine answers:
Norm Jones
2011-04-22 01:16:56 UTC
Hello there,



I am from the USA and I do not know what guitars are available there, nor do I have any idea of what they cost there.



On the guitar. You can some with a fixed bridge and some with a tremolo bridge. Decide if you want a whammy bar. It is not practical to add a tremolo bridge to an inexpensive guitar. So narrow the choices down by whether you want a whammy bar. If you do want a whammy bar, that eliminates all those with a fixed bridge. If you do not want a whammy bar, that eliminates all those with a tremolo bridge.



For the most part, all the guitars you have listed are the low end quality wise of those brands. The Gio series by Ibanez are very cheap quality guitars. Same for the Squier Bullet. Most BC Rich are pretty low quality. Frankly, the Gregg Bennett may be the best quality guitar of that group. But decide about the whammy bar. Then test the remaining choices to see which feels most comfortable for you to play and which has the sound you like best. The feel of the neck and the shape and weight of the body are comfort matters and are personal preferences. What I find comfortable to play, you may not. So test those remaining choices go with the one that feels most comfortable for you to play. There is not a lot of difference quality wise in that group.



Amps. I don't know the Stranger amp. I have never played one, nor do I have any friends that play them. The Roland Cube is all right. It is not high on my list. For newer players, I would think that a 1x12 combo amp from Fender, Vox, Marshall, Crate, Peavey or Line 6 would be a good choice. Again, I don't know how available or expensive those brands are in India. But those are all good amps.



Whatever amp you do pick, make sure it has a 12 inch speaker (if it is a single speaker model). Do not go with a small practice amp that has a 6 inch or 8 inch speaker. Those make you sound thin and tinny. Also amps under 30 watts don't handle gain and distortion very well. They run out of head room. However, most 1x12 combos are at least 30 watts.



Pedals. Many of the amps have built in distortion. And it is all right, but not great. My problem with the built in distortion in those amps is the lack of adjustment to the effect. You really are too limited in how much you can dial in the exact tone you want. Even with the amps that have a built in distortion effect, I seldom use it. I prefer to go with a distortion pedal. A good basic distortion pedal that is fairly inexpensive (here in the US) is the Boss DS-1.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKFuwErM2ZA&feature=related



If you want a distortion pedal that is better for metal, but not as versatile as the DS-1, the Boss Metal Zone is a good choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uut1ol_HfCU



For a wah wah pedal, the Crybaby is the best.



Later,
timmy t
2011-04-21 15:43:03 UTC
Of the guitars you listed, I'd go for the GRG170DX. But I am worried that tremolos in your price range will give you grief due to the guitar always going out of tune. Fixed bridges are less hassle and stay in tune way better.



Alternatives that you can't go wrong with:



Ibanez RG321

ESP LTD H-101

Epiphone G-400

Schecter Omen 6



Ultimately, for versatility you will need a guitar with humbucker pickups since they have more power and fullness. The Fender only has single coil pickups, better suited for light stuff like country and soft pop or strictly soloing.



Whatever guitar you get, in the future you can upgrade the pickups to some EMG, Seymour Duncan, or Dimarzio brand and drastically improve the sound of your guitar over the generic stock pickups.



Also if you take it to a luthier and get a fret leveling and crowning, then lower string action slightly, you'll be amazed how a modest price guitar can play and sound like one three times as much.



About amps, step up to the Roland Cube 30x not the 20x ... it has more features and amp models and is worth the little extra cost. But the Roland Cube doesn't have an FX loop, so you can't put a wah pedal after built-in effects. It'll still work on the cleaner settings, or if you use a distortion pedal like the Electro-Harmonics Metal Muff before the wah. The Dunlop 95Q is a great wah.



The following alternatives have an effects loop and are good amps too, but they don't have as many features or built-in effects as the Roland Cube. Thus they are better if you want to use separate pedals for all that:



- Blackstar HT-5 (very good)

- Tech21 Trademark 30



You won't need a distortion pedal, however, since all these amps (Cube included) have decent distortion built in.
anonymous
2016-02-25 07:29:04 UTC
I have a Spider ii30 that I got on a whim. I was always totally against the modeling thing and couldn't see it as bein remotely good. BUT, after tweaking the L6 a bit, I got some great sounds out of it. PLUS, having 4 distinct channels is really nice. From what I've gathered, the VOX and Roland are both pretty good as well. With the price range you're looking at, other than finding a used tube amp, you're probably fine with any of them (Though, you may also want to look at the Orange Crush 30 before buying). There may be a "coldness" to the models in some regards, but it's no worse than the swill of a blazey distortion I hear coming out of a lot of Mesas. Though the prevailing "wisdom" is that tubes are the only way to get good tone, it's wrong. REALLY, whatever tone you like is what's best for you. I've used and owned about every make of amp that's not in the boutique market (Too many of those to ever try them all) including Mesas, Fender ('59 Tweed Bassman, among others), Marshalls, Ampeg, MusicMan, Vox, Randall, Peavey, etc. Have found just as many lousy sounding tube amps as solid state. The type of tubes you can colour the tone as well. Nowadays, as a matter of fact, I predominantly use a TubeWorks, which is a hybrid (Tube pre/Mosfet power). I had one before but sold it and it took some experiments with the Pre tube to get what I wanted out of this one. BASICALLY, as someone said, you're probably best to try to line them up, get to mess with each a bit, and see what works best for you. For what you're looking to spend, you should be able to find something that works for you. Best of luck.
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2011-04-24 23:37:31 UTC
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